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I'm posting this here to ask for help! How can we aggregate BP's blogs? How can we receive email when others post new ideas or requests for help?

Dear fellow BPers:

I woke up daydreaming along these lines (which look suspiciously like a famous book by Richard Bach):

"Feathers slightly out of place, the self-assembled gang of seagulls looked down. So many boats with fish around them, but where to start? So much energy, but how could they work together? It looked as if each could only control their own altitude, their own direction and their own speed ..."

So here's my thinking about the Bloggers' Parliament:

We have (at least) two problems:
- what to focus on: ideas for the many, ideas for the few
- how to work "together": not tight, but open and viral

We have (at least) two distinctive features:
- we are bloggers: we write, we comment, we link
- we are thinkers: reactive thinkers, proactive thinkers

What can we do?

1.- We can use some blogging technology to "tie our blogs together" somehow.

Maybe we can use an aggregator so that "it" does the job of putting links to all recent BP stories on one page, in order to make it easy to follow our fellows' work. We follow what's going on. Others do the same. I don't know how that technology works. I've heard there's a python script that can produce that one page which then has to be uploaded. There may be simpler ways to do that - maybe using some already available service. Google "blogs aggregator", perhaps. Or ask friends.
An example here. Trouble is, it looks like blogs need to use "RSS" (whatever that is) in order to be "aggregable". Hand-made ones (such as Natalie's) wouldn't be "aggregable". Maybe Natalie (or others) would want to use another site for their BP-ideas? Apparently, my host uses RDF, not RSS. I too need help.

There's a way to "subscribe" to each others' blogs by email. Every time a new story is posted, a message is sent to people who want to follow your blog. I don't know how that works specifically. It could be too much, and I wish I could get a summarized message every week. I don't know if this needs "RSS" or whatever.

2.- We can use "stories" to communicate among us. Maybe one of us has a pet project and can invite ideas: maybe Josef can write "next week, I'd like to see some specific ideas to push green electricity forward". The general idea of "green electricity" is good but it could use some help in becoming practical for more and more people. So any of us can "lead" and the rest can "follow" or "ignore".

But we need to "be easily aware of each other" first.

3.- We can use "comments" as a way to work together. "Stories" in our blogs are good, but sometimes "comments" are even better! Perhaps a "story" can ask for ideas, or it can ask for exploration of an idea, or can ask for even better ideas. I suggest let's not neglect comments. If any of you post a comment at http://parli.blogalia.com (which is having infrastructure problems, sorry) then I'll link to your blog specifically, saying "thanks".

To add up:
- Thinking can be seen as having 3 phases: set up a problem area, gather or create ideas, explore those ideas to improve on them or make them more practical. Each step is valuable. We can all help each other and follow each other.
- We need to receive news from each other's work.

Maybe we're almost there and eager to do some real work?

Referencias (TrackBacks)

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De: Sepp (Josef Hasslberger) Fecha: 2004-02-17 13:02

Dear Lucas and other BPers,

One thing is for sure: We should not underestimate our potential for changing things in a positive way. I appreciated very much Josef's comments the other day. He says:

"We can very realistically make a significant difference to many of these problems. Especially if we decide to focus on one in particular (my preference, by far, would be to focus on "the money problem" since so few people are aware of the issues and because it touches everyones lives everywhere, everyday)."

I would agree on the importance of resolving the problem of the economic environment we are living in, and I do think that - as Josef keeps emphasising - a few dedicated individuals CAN bring about a change in society.

I would also root for not dispersing our very meager resources and the time we can put at the service of this, by trying to handle too many things at one time. So prioritisation of actions would seem to be a needed feature.

As for RSS to link sites together, Robin Good has some information in his latest work. Here is a gem:

"6) The Internet TopicExchange http://topicexchange.com/ The Internet Topic Exchange hosts topic channels, public archives of weblog posts on defined topics. The Internet Topic Exchange works by using the trackback functionality (http://www.muhajabah.com/islamicblog/what-is-tb.htm) of many weblog content management systems. The idea of a TrackBack-powered conversation server originated with Sebastien Paquet and his Ridiculously Easy Group Forming concept (http://radio.weblogs.com/0110772/2002/10/09.html). You can post to a channel in the Internet Topic Exchanhe via your blog trackback or by filling out a form at the bottom of the topic index page. You can read a channel in a Web browser or in a news aggregator (look for the 'RSS' link). Each channel is associated with a Wiki page. Also here you can create new channels as required. Each channel is archived forever. There's an XML-RPC interface to let you create, list and post to channels automatically."

And he goes on to say:

"How Ping The Topic Exchange The Topic Exchange implements the Weblogs.Com XML-RPC interface (spec). To ping, point your blogging tool at http://topicexchange.com/RPC2. Details on how to do this with MT (Movable Type):
1) From the main screen, click 'Manage Weblog' under the blog you want.
2) Click on 'Weblog Config', under 'Manage' on the bar on the left-hand side of the window.
3) Click on 'Preferences' (next to 'Core Setup' at the top of the window) and 'Publicity / Remote Interfaces / TrackBack'.
4) Under 'Others', type in http://topicexchange.com/RPC2.
5) Scroll to the bottom of the page and click 'SAVE'.
Now your blog will show up on the weblog updates page every time you post."

So much for today.


De: lgs Fecha: 2004-02-17 15:10


Thanks for writing here. I've read your blog entry on money and the experience in some islands.

Maybe we can indeed focus in that area. I'd like to learn enough, then be given a creative task, then do it, then explore it, then move on.

So far we've assumed we have the information and all we need is creativity. That may be the case in many instances, but not regarding money. At least I don't know enough. But I'd like to. And so would Suhit, I'm quite sure.

I suggest we can go about it like a "school project": research, share, invent, discuss. The "invent" part (Natalie's contribution) is a very important part of it, but I feel it's better if "packaged".

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